CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_


Reported by Daisy Shen/IBM

NetData Minutes

This was the second meeting of the Working Group Chaired by Daisy Shen.
The meeting Agenda is shown below:


   o Review the Charter.
   o Give the History of the SQL Access Group.
   o Presentation of the Draft.
   o Discussion of the Draft and Problems That are Related to the
     Subject.
   o Discussion of the Effort of Other Vendors and OSF Related to the
     Subject.
   o Future Work.


Reviewed the Charter

All the members felt that we met the Charter and the Milestones on
schedule as of June 1991.

History of the SQL Access Group

All the members agreed that the SQL Access group doesn't seem to be
willing to work with us.  The SQL Access group gave us a two-page
document which is useless.  Although, our group and the SQL Access group
seem to have some similar interests, we are solving the problem via
TCP/IP while they use the ISO standard.  Actually those two have
different goals.

Presentation and Discussion of the Draft and Related Problems

The first draft was presented for those who had not read it or had
questions.  There were some issues discussed and solved.


   o SQL statements
     The protocol works with both SQL static and dynamic statements.

   o Transport means
     Our protocol will apply to both TCP and UDP. It is one of the
     parameters that users have to specify.  The default value is TCP.

   o Data conversion
     The header information along with data will be treated as a string
     by RPC/XDR and the protocol will use ASN format which is an IOS
     standard to represent the reply data.


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   o Security
     Kerberos is not required.  Users can have options to use or not to
     use Kerberos.  For those machines who don't have Kerberos, the
     protocol will provide security which relies on uid and gid.
     Authentication will be done on the RPC level.

   o RPC
     Before there is a standard RPC, the protocol will work with all
     versions of RPC. However, all members of NETDATA believe that we
     should start an RPC Working Group standardizing RPC, especially a
     secured RPC.


The Network Management Operational Statistics Working Group had some
discussion on database issues.  We should let them know that our group
is working on the problem.  It would be nice if they could tell us their
requirements.  Perhaps, we can help them solve their problem.

Discussion of the Effort of Other Vendors and OSF Related to the Subject

We could not find any more information on the effort of other vendors
and OSF. We will continue to search.

Future Work


   o Update the first draft and make it a protocol only.
   o Create a new draft for the structure and implementation issues.
   o Get a better understanding on ASN.1.
   o Get more familiar with ISO standard.
   o Look into SQL statement's additional negotiation options.
   o Look into starting an RPC Working Group.
   o Connect the Network Management Operational Statistics Working
     Group.
   o Find volunteers to do the second version of the implementation.


Attendees

Chi Chu                  chi@sparta.com
John Cook                cook@chipcom.com
Bill Fardy               fardy@ctron.com
Shari Galitzer           shari@gateway.mitre.org
Russ Hobby               rdhobby@ucdavis.edu
Mike Janson              mjanson@mot.com
Vincent Lau              vincent.lau@eng.sun.com
Louis Leon               osll@emuvm1.cc.emory.edu
Leo McLaughlin           ljm@wco.ftp.com
Michael Patton           map@lcs.mit.edu
Geir Pedersen            geir.pedersen@use.uio.no
Daisy Shen               daisy@watson.ibm.com
Erik Sherk               sherk@nmc.cit.cornell.edu
Anil Singhal


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David Waitzman           djw@bbn.com



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