Access and Synchronization of the Internet Directory BOF (ASID) Reported by Tim Howes/University of Michigan Background for this BOF Tim presented a review of the Framework for a White Pages Service for the Internet BOF (PAGES) held on Monday, along with the perceived need for an ASID Working Group in the broader context of the WPS directory service reorganization underway in the IETF. The PAGES BOF identified the need for four groups: o A short-lived requirements group (Tony Genovese) o A policy/administration/legal issues group (IDS) o An interoperability/indexing group (TBD) o A protocol group (ASID) ASID is the proposed protocol group, whose mission is to define and evolve individual directory service protocols. Review of Proposed Charter There was some discussion about whether the synchronization part of ASID was appropriate. Some people felt it was not a well-defined area and that none of the group's milestones currently reflected a focus on this topic. Others felt that synchronization was an important aspect of Internet directory services which needed to be addressed by the IETF, and that ASID was the place to do it. It was finally decided that ASID would keep synchronization in its charter. Tim took an action to make any minor charter changes required and send it to the list. Proposed Group Name There were several suggestions for alternate names for the group: PIDS Protocols for Internet Directory Service CWPIDS (Unknown) DASI Directory Access and Synchronization for the Internet The final decision will be made on the mailing list. Logistics - How Will this Group Work? Given the broad set of protocols under the ASID umbrella, there was some question as to how the group could best function in its ``coordinating and reviewing'' capacity, while remaining focused enough on individual protocols to get actual work done. It was decided that individual protocols (e.g., WHOIS++, LDAP) should be developed by smaller teams working on their own mailing lists (which in many cases already exist). These groups would then bring their documents to the ASID list for review. SOLO Directory Service Paul-Andre Pays gave a presentation on the SOLO directory service (currently described in the Internet-Draft draft-huitema-solo-01.txt). A lively discussion followed. Paul-Andre stated that a future version of the document would flesh out various issues such as schema, query syntax, etc. LDAP Simon Spero presented some comments on the LDAP Proposed Standard. The comments were editorial things he had encountered in doing a second independent implementation of LDAP. Tim will make the suggested changes and resubmit the draft. LDAP has been at Proposed Standard since July of 1993. Since there are now two independent interoperable implementations, the feeling of the group was that it was time to move LDAP to Draft Standard. Erik Huizer was tasked with pursuing this. CLDAP The Connectionless LDAP draft by Alan Young seems to have taken on a life of its own, generating much discussion on the OSIDS list and in the meeting. There was a generally identified need for a connectionless version of LDAP, but among the issues still needing to be resolved were: o How do we fit multiple results in a single packet o How do we fit multiple requests in a single packet o Should we leave out modifies o How small does it need to be (e.g., to fit certificates) The group felt modifies were not needed. People can use LDAP if they want to do modifies/creates/deletes. The last question about size of the packets produced much discussion and lots of space-saving ideas, including using ``packed encoding rules,'' replacing attribute names by well-known numbers, and using some form of compression. It was finally decided that we did not have a good handle on the requirements for such a protocol in terms of size. Simon was volunteered to write up his views on size requirements and send them to the list. Date of Next Meeting The next meeting of ASID (its first as a real working group) will be at the July IETF in Toronto, Canada. Attendees Alexis Bor bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com Luc Boulianne lucb@bunyip.com Gregg Brekke gbrekke@mr.net Susan Calcari susanc@internic.net C. Allan Cargille allan.cargille@cs.wisc.edu Michael Carroll br.mjc@rlg.stanford.edu Rong Chang rong@watson.ibm.com Cyrus Chow cchow@ames.arc.nasa.gov Charles Combs 0003647213@mcimail.com Robert Cooney cooney@wnyose.nctsw.navy.mil Curtis Cox ccox@wnyosi7.nctsw.navy.mil Urs Eppenberger eppenberger@switch.ch Susan Estrada sestrada@aldea.com Richard Everman reverman@ka.reg.uci.edu Roger Fajman raf@cu.nih.gov Patrik Faltstrom paf@nada.kth.se Jill Foster Jill.Foster@newcastle.ac.uk Lois Frampton frampton@mitre.org Tony Genovese genovese@es.net Arlene Getchell getchell@es.net Judith Grass grass@cnri.reston.va.us Alisa Hata hata@cac.washington.edu Roland Hedberg Roland.Hedberg@umdac.umu.se Alex Hopmann alex.hopmann@resnova.com Tim Howes tim@umich.edu Richard Huber rvh@ds.internic.net Erik Huizer Erik.Huizer@SURFnet.nl Barbara Jennings bjjenni@sandia.gov Marko Kaittola Marko.Kaittola@dante.org.uk David Katinsky dmk@pilot.njin.net Robert Kummerfeld bob@cs.su.oz.au Sylvain Langlois Sylvain.Langlois@der.edf.fr Walter Lazear lazear@gateway.mitre.org Glenn Mansfield glenn@aic.co.jp April Marine april@atlas.arc.nasa.gov Marilyn Martin martin@netcom.ubc.ca Larry Masinter masinter@parc.xerox.com David Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu Linda Millington l.millington@noc.ulcc.ac.uk Mitra mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us Keith Moore moore@cs.utk.edu Kim Morla kmorla@pucp.edu.pe John Myers jgm+@cmu.edu Mark Needleman mhn@stubbs.ucop.edu Chris Newman chrisn+@cmu.edu Martin Pagel martinp@microsoft.com Paul-Andre Pays pays@faugeres.inria.fr Karen Petraska-Veum karen.veum@gsfc.nasa.gov Mark Prior mrp@itd.adelaide.edu.au Deb Rodgers deb@cac.washington.edu Steven Russert srussert@atc.boeing.com Srinivas Sataluri sri@internic.net Rickard Schoultz schoultz@sunet.se Michael Seibel mikes@cac.washington.edu Mark Smith mcs@umich.edu Milan Sova sova@feld.cvut.cz David Staudt dstaudt@nsf.gov Einar Stefferud stef@nma.com Peter Sylvester peter.sylvester@inria.fr Aleks Totic atotic@ncsa.uiuc.edu Chris Weider clw@bunyip.com Russ Wright wright@lbl.gov